A Late-Season Water Log

 

If you are planning a late season hike, we wanted to share our experiences with water, so that it can give you a reference, since most everyone starts earlier.

 

These notes are simply what we found when we hiked through and obviously will vary from year to year and should NOT be counted on. We were also told by hikers behind us that a couple of springs had nearly dried up only a week later.   The year 2000 was a year of somewhat lower than average rainfall and snowfall in Southern California and the Southern Sierras. As you can see, we didn't bother to format this page so a lot of the line spacing is screwed up. 

 

Section A

 

Water source                            Date Encountered            Comments

         

 

Hauser Creek                                      May 21                  Dry (what a surprise)

 

Lake Morena Campground                     May 21                  Water in Campground

 

Boulder Oaks Campground                    May 22                 Water in Campground. 

 

Bolder Oaks Notes:  The ranger at Lake Morena told us that the water was shut off.  The trail updates had said the water was on, but he kept insisting that the water was shut off.  Since we knew that the campground wasn’t in operation and the store was closed this was quite worrying and the weather was so hot that we were afraid something might have changed. We carried a lot of extra water and then found that the water was indeed turned on. Double check on this water situation before leaving because it’s impossible to double check what someone says once you are out on the trail. 

 

Fred Canyon Creek, Trail Xing             May 22                 Dry

 

Long Canyon Creek                               May 22                 Running

 

Campgrounds in Mt. Laguna                   May 23                 Water

 

Pioneer Mail Trailhead                         May 23                 Water. 

 

Pioneer Trail Notes:  If you aren’t carrying a pot of some sort, and want to filter water from this source, you will have a difficult time doing so.  The water runs out of a pipe into a horse trough.  You will either have to filter from the horse trough or collect water in a container and filter. 

 

Water source up hill                            May 24                 Did not investigate

 

Springs at Chariot Canyon                    May 24                 Did not investigate

 

Springs at Rodrigues  T.T.                   May 24                 Running

 

Scissors Crossing                                 May 25                 Water in creek. 

 

Notes: Trail angels had left water here also.  Check ahead of time with them if you plan to hike late in the season to see if there will be water.

 

Third Gate, San Felipe Hills                 May 26                 Trail angels left water also.  Also check with the trail angels re: this source.

 

Barrel Springs                                    May 26                 Water was running.  If you plan to filter, the same situation is true as with Pioneer Mail

                                                                                      Trailhead.

 

Creek bet. Barrel & Warner Sp.           May 26                 Don’t remember.  Probably running, but Warner Springs is just around the corner.

 

Warner Springs                                  May 27                 Water at Gas Station.

 

 

Section B

 

Water source                            Date Encountered            Comments

Agua Caliente Creek                            May 27                 Running but somewhat sluggish with stagnant pools in places.

 

Lost Valley Spring                               May 27                 Running

 

Chihuahua Valley T.T. tank                   May 28                 Had Water

 

Tule Spring Creek                               May 28                 Dry

 

Tule Spring Water at Valve                 May 28                 Running

 

Notes:  From here, there was no on trail natural water source until a creek running just before saddle junction, about 42 miles away.  Other sources…

 

Dirt road to Anza                                May 29                 Paul leaves water at this junction.  Check with him first.

 

Stayed in Anza until May 31

 

Highway 74

Pines to Palms                                      May 31                  Paul leaves water at this junction-also check first.                                                      

                                                                                        

 

 

Notes:  Once you climb into the Desert Divide, you will be walking pretty much along a knife edge ridge.  All the springs are located downhill to the west or east off the trail.  It’s no fun getting water from any of these sources as they require a loss and regain of elevation.

 

Tunnel Spring -                                   May 31                 Did not go

Live Oaks Trails

 

Cedar Spring Trail                              June 1                   Water

 

Fobes Ranch Trail                               June 1                   Did not go

 

Apache Spring                                     June 1                   Water, steep brushy trail.  Burned out camp when you get there.

 

 

Stream just before saddle jct.              June 2                   Water

 

Strawberry Cienega                            June 2                   Water

 

North Fork San Jacinto River              June 2                   Water

 

 

Water Fountain at

Snow Canyon                                       June 3                   Water

 

No on trail water until Whitewater River. (except supposedly at Mesa windfarm) Trail angels and water at the Pink Motel, just across Highway 10. We did not stop there, but hear they are very nice.

 

Stayed in Banning until June 5

 

Section C

 

Water source                            Date Encountered            Comments

 

Mesa Windfarm                                   June 5                   Didn’t stop.  Don’t know if there is actually water here.

 

Whitewater River                                June 5                   Water.  This was only a small babbling brook.  Heard it was running fairly hard 3 weeks earlier.

 

Mission Creek all crossings                   June 5/6               Water

 

Forks Spring                                       June 6                   Water near trail here.                                             

                                                                                     

 

Cienega Seca Creek                             June 7                   Dry

 

Arrastre Trail Camp                            June 7                   Water was on

 

Doble Trail Camp                                June 7                   Water was on        

 

Caribou Creek                                     June 8                   Some water

 

Little Bear Springs Camp                     June 9                   Water was on

 

Creek at trail crossing                         June 9                   Running

 

Deep Creek Bridge                              June 9                   Running

 

Deep Creek second bridge                    June 10                 Running       

 

Deep Creek at base of                         June 10                 Running

Mohave Dam

 

Grass Valley Creek                              June 10                 Water running over trail-very shallow

 

Summit Valley Store                            June 11                  Right off trail, water, snacks.  Opens early in morning

 

Cleghorn Picnic Area                            June 11                  Water was on

 

Unnamed stream (3830)                       June 11                  Dry

 

Stream just before Cajon Pass             June 12                 Trickle

 

 

Section D

 

Water source                            Date Encountered            Comments

 

Bike Springs                                       June 13                 Dry

 

Guffy Campground                               June 13                 Running

 

Notes: It was reported to us that some people were having trouble finding this spring.  Just before you get to Guffy Campground, off to the right (north) there is a faint trail heading downhill.  Follow the trail to the spring.  There’s a little springhouse at the spring source. This spring is really important if you did not detour to Wrightwood, because you will have come 23 miles and will be thirsty.

 

Grassy Hollow Family Campground        June 14                 Didn’t get water

 

Lamel Spring                                       June 14                 Running (great water)

 

Lily Spring                                          June 14                 Didn’t go there

 

Little Jimmy Trail Camp                      June 15                 Running (good water)

 

Little Rock Creek Springs                    June 15                 Water in Creek at crossings-didn’t see water in springs.

 

Cooper Canyon Trail                            June 15                 Don’t recall if there was water

Campground

 

Camp Glenwood                                    June 15                 Water at spigot by Cabin—seems like it didn’t taste good

 

 

Three Points –                                     June 16                 No water-maybe if you walk down road to bldgs.

Highway 2                               

                                               

 

Sulphur Springs Campground                June 16                 Water off at campground spigots. 

 

Notes:  Before you get to the Campground, there will be a split in the trail that shows the horsecamp one way and the hiker camp the other way. To get water, follow signs to the horse camp. If spigot is off, proceed to dirt road and turn right and follow the road to where it makes a hairpin bend at the canyon wall.  A horse trough will be here with water running into it.  This was the only place we found water.

 

Pacifico Mt. Spring                             June 16                 Running.  Delicious.

 

Pacifico Mt. Rd/Mill Cr.                     June 16                 Water on

Ranger Station      

 

Big Buck Trail Camp                            June 17                 Didn’t go

 

Messenger Flats                                  June 17                 Water on

Campground

 

                       

North Fork Ranger                              June 17                 Water on

Station

 

Soledad Canyon Rd.                             June 18                 didn’t go there

 

 

Small Creek just past                           June 18                 enough to get some water

Soledad Canyon Rd.         

 

Water as you enter                              June 18                 running

Vasquez Rocks       

 

Stayed in Aqua Dulce until June 20

 

 

Section E

 

Water source                            Date Encountered            Comments

 

Bear Spring                                        June 20                 Dry

 

Trail angels left 2 water caches in this area between Aqua Dulce and SF Canyon Rd.  Check first.

 

San Fracisquito

Canyon Rd. Ranger Station                   June 20                 Water

 

Left trail and took detour to Lake Hughes and across Mojave

 

Detour Water

 

Aquaduct just past reservoir                June 21                 Water access

 

Re-join PCT at Cottonwood Creek

 

Cottonwood Creek                                June 22                          Water in trough downhill from cement structure

 

Tylerhorse Canyon                               June 22                          Water running in very shallow creek

 

Oak Creek                                          June 23                          Some water here.  Trail angel water drop as well.

 

 

Stayed in Mojave until June 25

 

Section F

 

Golden Oaks Spring                             June 25                          Water

 

Robin Bird Spring                               June 26                          Very little water.  May have been more up by the spring source

 

Seasonal Spring                                   June 26                          Dry

 

Cottonwood Creek                                June 26                          Dry (may have been one tiny stagnant pool ofwater)                             

 

Spring abv. Landers Cr.                       June 26                          Just a little stagnant water in cement trough

 

Landers Creek                                     June 26                          Dry

 

Unpaved – Road 29S05   

To primitive campground                      June 26                          Water

 

Notes:  May be your only good source for miles.  You can either stay on the west side of the dry creekbed and follow the road along the creek bed to the campground, or you can stay on the trail and soon you will be able to see the trail camp and fire pits across the creekbed and then just leave the trail and cross over to the trailcamp.  The spring is slightly up the hill..

 

Butterbredt Canyon Rd.                       June 27                 Did not go to spring. 

 

Notes:Trail angel left good water stash.  Heard spring was very contaminated by cows.

 

Road to Willow Spring                         June 27                 Did not go to spring. 

 

Notes:Trail angel left a very very good water stash at the road.  Heard the spring was very contaminated by cows.

 

Road to Yellow Jacket                         June 27                 Did not go to spring. 

 

Notes: Heard spring was very contaminated by cows.

 

Road to McIvers Spring                      June 28                 Did not go to spring. 

 

Notes:  There was water on the trail at this junction.

 

Walker Pass Campground                     June 28                 Water was off here at spigots. 

                                                           

 

Notes:  We didn’t investigate much, someone was waiting to pick us up. I've heard that you can get water somewhere nearby though.

 

Section G

 

Water source                            Date Encountered            Comments

 

Joshua Tree                                        June 29                 Water barely running

Spring

 

Spanish Needle Creek                          June 29                 Not Running at 1st crossing but running further up further up.

 

Creek near trail register near              June 30                 running

Chimney Rock Creek                                              

 

Fox Mill Spring                                   June 30                 running

 

Seasonal creek                                    June 30                 dry

Rockhouse Basin

 

Kern River                                          July 1                    running

 

South Fork Kern River (bridge)            July 1                    running

 

Notes:  We did not find any water until the next bridge over the Kern River in Monanche Meadows.  All other seasonal streams were dry.  The upper Kern was contaminated by cows standing all around in the water.  (The cows had just been let up into this area recently.) 

 

Kern River (second bridge)                  July 2                   water, cattle contamination

Cow Creek                                           July 2                   had water further up the canyon.  Also heavily contaminated by cows.

 

There was another spring on the way up to Olancha Peak with better water.

 

After that there were some small water sources on the way to Death Canyon where there was water in the canyon bottom.

 

From Death Canyon to the trail to Lone Pine, I don’t remember any on trail water source or creek crossing, but there are some springs not far off trail that we didn’t check out.  The next on trail water source was a creek near Chicken Spring Lake or the Lake Itself.  After that, water is plentiful for a long time.   Enjoy!  You’ll deserve it.

 

 

           

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